tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post5145589785624309707..comments2024-01-26T15:00:33.908-06:00Comments on The THRILLIONTH page: The Daughter of the Blood/Kushiel challenge!Carolyn Cranehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17195853833116263029noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-46457191217494677602008-11-29T10:29:00.000-06:002008-11-29T10:29:00.000-06:00CJ - this is why when I recommend this trilogy to ...CJ - this is why when I recommend this trilogy to people - as much as I love it - I have to tell them that it's VERY Dark. Very. But I'm glad you're enjoying. Bishop is an amazing writer and she just sucked me in. I love your wind up toy analogy. So perfect.<BR/><BR/>Yes, you'll want to read the next 2 books after you find DotB. So. Damn. Good.Tracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05320961506471746567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-86699306089371822342008-11-27T18:21:00.000-06:002008-11-27T18:21:00.000-06:00sounds interesting...and OMG 'genitals are smeared...sounds interesting...and OMG 'genitals are smeared with bacon grease, and rats gnaw them all night' I think that would grab my attention *cringe*<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://thebookworm07.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">http://thebookworm07.blogspot.com/</A>The Bookwormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10217390642323530030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-65829332006162167962008-11-27T10:56:00.000-06:002008-11-27T10:56:00.000-06:00Hmmm, I also loved the Black Jewels series straigh...Hmmm, I also loved the Black Jewels series straight away, but it took me over thirty tries to get past the first page of Kushiel's Dart. <BR/><BR/>I'd read the first two paragraphs get bored and go and do something else. So I can understand where Kati is coming from. And I never really got to like Phaedre as a character.LesleyWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14059048442986942270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-66612361668380175042008-11-27T04:26:00.000-06:002008-11-27T04:26:00.000-06:00Ladytink, this is one series that it is worth pers...Ladytink, this is one series that it is worth persevering past the first couple of paragraphs!Marghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13508430635744720721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-49343688166992561262008-11-27T04:16:00.000-06:002008-11-27T04:16:00.000-06:00I DNF this either and it was because of the beginn...I DNF this either and it was because of the beginning passages too. If I can't understand the first two paragraphs in a book then thats usually a no-go for me!Ladytink_534https://www.blogger.com/profile/14317480621483829078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-33684647269832172112008-11-26T18:08:00.000-06:002008-11-26T18:08:00.000-06:00UM alright, alright I shall try really really hard...UM alright, alright I shall try really really hard to read this series by the end of the year. *writes quick memo to remember to read the books this year!*Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00203551997160640352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-74055819100722852692008-11-26T16:53:00.000-06:002008-11-26T16:53:00.000-06:00I never read Bishop before. Hmmmm. I'm curious now...I never read Bishop before. Hmmmm. I'm curious now.Enchanted by Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05939494712100587128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-46852501312147140822008-11-25T11:32:00.000-06:002008-11-25T11:32:00.000-06:00Okay...I'M WATCHING YOU, KB!Okay...<BR/><BR/>I'M WATCHING YOU, KB!meljean brookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16135527993507471830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-33033412992663193202008-11-25T11:27:00.000-06:002008-11-25T11:27:00.000-06:00The fat walrus is someone else. I would never do t...The fat walrus is someone else. I would never do that to the feather duster.<BR/>CJ, look what you started!!KT Granthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15958121742156171756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-80918870182941176822008-11-25T11:26:00.000-06:002008-11-25T11:26:00.000-06:00Wait wait -- KB called the feather duster a fat wa...Wait wait -- KB called the feather duster a fat walrus?meljean brookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16135527993507471830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-45510604040412558772008-11-25T10:38:00.000-06:002008-11-25T10:38:00.000-06:00The he in question just needs a moustache and he w...The he in question just needs a moustache and he will be singing coo coo cachoo!KT Granthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15958121742156171756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-72192477258254262952008-11-25T10:36:00.000-06:002008-11-25T10:36:00.000-06:00LOL. At least I didn't publicly MOCK him and call ...LOL. At least I didn't publicly MOCK him and call him a fat walrus!!!Carolyn Cranehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17195853833116263029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-44021642179911364732008-11-25T10:34:00.000-06:002008-11-25T10:34:00.000-06:00Hey, I stuck with you all this time, after you sto...Hey, I stuck with you all this time, after you stole the feather duster from me.KT Granthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15958121742156171756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-61267198379267729512008-11-25T10:32:00.000-06:002008-11-25T10:32:00.000-06:00You will still be my friend?You will still be my friend?Carolyn Cranehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17195853833116263029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-77844974847894557892008-11-25T10:28:00.000-06:002008-11-25T10:28:00.000-06:00CJ: Don't be shy, we all can't like the same books...CJ: Don't be shy, we all can't like the same books. :DKT Granthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15958121742156171756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-8145983964965868802008-11-25T10:26:00.000-06:002008-11-25T10:26:00.000-06:00Kati: I think I'm going to buy the rest of the boo...Kati: I think I'm going to buy the rest of the books in this. #2 and #3. Even though I'm coming in mixed right now on my opinion!! <BR/><BR/>KB: I sort of don't talk about it much. I know you and many other readers I respect really love that series!!Carolyn Cranehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17195853833116263029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-51072940856000781322008-11-25T10:19:00.000-06:002008-11-25T10:19:00.000-06:00CJ: Wilson was a DNF for you? I love those books t...CJ: Wilson was a DNF for you? I love those books to peices!KT Granthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15958121742156171756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-61541890414944433842008-11-25T10:16:00.000-06:002008-11-25T10:16:00.000-06:00Cj - Yup, definitely fantasy, but I haven't finish...Cj - Yup, definitely fantasy, but I haven't finished it yet, so it doesn't count yet.<BR/><BR/>I'm up to about page 630. But I'm expecting to have a ton of reading time this weekend. So I'll finish it and start thinking on my post. I think I'm going to end up buying Kushiel's Chosen, but I'm not sure I'll read it right away.Katihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08178354927628992485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-46550861742752715042008-11-25T09:17:00.000-06:002008-11-25T09:17:00.000-06:00Yes, it is inventive! I do appreciate the subversi...Yes, it is inventive! I do appreciate the subversion of the hell thing, too. I wonder if that's part of the hyper violence and cruelty, that Bishop is trying to establish that switch, where the world of the living is the true hell and Dorothea and Heketah are the actual evil. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, guess what - I stayed up late and finished this book. I'm thinking about it for my FINAL post. But this morning I was laying in bed trying to decide if this book is more gory and violent than SEVEN, which for no particular reason is my measuring stick for violence. <BR/><BR/>PS Kati: You know, the Tairen soul was DNF for me, too. I couldn't understand why that fellow couldn't control himself! He seemed like a big baby. Maybe I'm not into fantasy, but wouldn't you classify Kushiel as fantasy?Carolyn Cranehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17195853833116263029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-39997078816572451722008-11-25T07:41:00.000-06:002008-11-25T07:41:00.000-06:00LOL! Well, Thea you know I'm not gonna judge, usua...LOL! Well, Thea you know I'm not gonna judge, usually it's me that either loves or hates book that everyone else does.<BR/><BR/>I thought about it alot last night. You know, I've read all of two fantasy series. Two. And one of them (Tairen Soul series), I think is classified as romance. So perhaps part of my deep fangrrl love of the series has to do with it's my first. <BR/><BR/>But like Meljean, I totally see the issues you'd have had with the book. But like I said, I think for me part of the allure of the series is that I'd never read anything so inventive and the incredibly dark nature of the stories completely appeals to me.Katihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08178354927628992485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-53829335344508198922008-11-25T01:15:00.000-06:002008-11-25T01:15:00.000-06:00I would agree that both these books and Carey's ca...I would agree that both these books and Carey's can be slow starters. Same with Gabaldon. There is a lot of density to the world-building that eventually I come to really like, but I have sometimes felt that the beginnings are a slog. Or that I have to "save" the book for a time when I can have some really uninterrupted, quality reading time (extreeeeeemly rare, in my house).<BR/><BR/>I had to duck out of the "romance or not" discussion earlier in order to do some actual, you know, work. I certainly didn't mean to imply that there is NO romance to the stories, only that the romance isn't really the main focus or "raison d'être" of the books. <BR/><BR/>It's a Good vs. Evil story arc, which AFAIC is not the most interesting plot device, but can be a decent backdrop for complex character development.<BR/><BR/>There's some really amazing characters in this trilogy but I think what keeps it from being FAN-GIRL-SQUEEE territory for me is that it's thin on shades of gray. The evil folk are REALLY TOTALLY, DEEPLY FUCKING EVIL. Everybody else is just trying to get by and whatever questionable stuff they do gets kind of a pass because of their traumatized state.<BR/><BR/>And I liked the last book best (though I haven't read the novellas) because Jaenelle finally comes into her power and starts re-arranging the furniture, it's not so goody-two-shoes.Nicola O.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947359287796827837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-29918980681312130452008-11-25T00:05:00.000-06:002008-11-25T00:05:00.000-06:00Thea!!!! *shakes fist*Nah, joking. I never underst...Thea!!!! *shakes fist*<BR/><BR/>Nah, joking. I never understand the "how dare you not like what I did" thing. <BR/><BR/>I think I remember you mentioning on your site how much you disliked these, but it was way back when so I couldn't remember if it was you or Ana. I *see* everything you dislike about it, and on an objective level, totally get it. And ask myself, in the seconds when I'm not totally caught up in everything, why it doesn't bother me more :-D<BR/><BR/>It's a crazy thing, responses to books. I'm so glad I'm not a reviewer.meljean brookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16135527993507471830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-66674734578616368222008-11-24T23:30:00.000-06:002008-11-24T23:30:00.000-06:00Ok, I'm gonna put myself out there and say...I rea...Ok, I'm gonna put myself out there and say...I really dislike this series. Intensely. I had the omnibus, and I read all three books in a go. By the end I was in 'dear God let it be OVER already' phase (this was back when I refused to mark books as a DNF)...so, I understand where you're coming from with your original DNF status on the book.<BR/><BR/>And a lot of the problems you have with it are what turned me off to the books as well. There's too much snarling, the power imbalance is completely wacky (Dorothea and Heketah have the same power ranking as Saetan's butler o_O; whereas the good guys have innumerable gray and black jewels), and it's violent without purpose, gratuitous without payoff. Like it was trying to be dark and deep, but comes off as...<I>trying</I> to be dark and deep. Plus, I wasn't crazy about Jaenelle or Daemon at all. <BR/><BR/>Of course this is just my opinion, and I'm in the distinct minority!<BR/><BR/>I'm curious to see how you find the series once you've finished reading it!<BR/><BR/>(And Kushiel's Dart sooooooo rocks)<BR/><BR/>*ducks glares and missiles from Anne Bishop fans*Theahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11138984974139025278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-91474937957109853862008-11-24T20:34:00.000-06:002008-11-24T20:34:00.000-06:00I haven't read either series but both sound intens...I haven't read either series but both sound intense. And the Whedon reference Kati made sealed it ~ I'll definitely read Bishop. And I love it when books have reference pages, family trees, guides and glossaries...Lesliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12055116610295076439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414093212095906246.post-72064350581216358822008-11-24T18:14:00.000-06:002008-11-24T18:14:00.000-06:00Kati & Meljean: Well, this actually helps me, ...Kati & Meljean: Well, this actually helps me, esp. to know that the cruelty isn't just gratuitous pantster stuff to sort of get a reader's hackles up. I guess that's what I was worried about. I mean, I got the bit about the degradation of the old ways, but the fact that it relates to a larger arc and that there's a world of thought behind it is comforting. <BR/><BR/>And so, I'm guessing the underpinnings will emerge more strongly if I have a little PATIENCE! <BR/><BR/>I'm thinking about asking Santa for book 2 & 3.Carolyn Cranehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17195853833116263029noreply@blogger.com