Tuesday, June 10, 2008

Question of the day

Okay, I am buried in work until Friday, but not too buried to seek the answer to a burning question I now have . . . about a certain act I read about last night in No Rest for the Wicked by Kresley Cole. Gosh, I am really enjoying this series! And I also seem to be in the slim minority of people who love the titles.

 Anyway, maybe I am naive, but dearest readers of this book, do you remember when Kaderin chains Sebastian to the bed with those magic chains and then the specific thing she does while he is chained up to keep things from ending . . .  I am not going to describe that whole manhandling procedure of hers—surely you remember! 

My question is this:  Can people really do that?  Would it not hurt and/or upset a fella? Does anybody have personal experience with this? 

And if you haven't read this book, well, maybe you'll be reading it now, huh? 

86 comments:

Katie Reus said...

Your question is totally evil. :) No, I haven't read it, but now I have to!

Carolyn Jean said...

Hey Katie! Sorry, I am much to bashful to tell it on the blog!

lisabea said...

CJ. Bashful? OMG we need to work through that together.


I also not only approve of the fun names, I like the covers. A lot. I find that we all complain endlessly about covers and titles and then some one steps outta the box a smidge and they get hammered for it.

Please do not read my comments about the snowball in hell cover cuz I sound like a hypocrite now. YAY!

I like these books. I'm pleading the 5th on the chains.

Katie(babs) said...

Oh yes CJ I know what you are talking about that and that scene was hot!! Come on, what man wouldn't mind be at the mercy of a woman? Heh heh so evil.
Also brings to mind in Lover Eternal with Mary chaining Rhage!!

Um I keep forgetting Cole's titles as soon as I finish them. Dark Deeds at Fall, Spring, Winter, Summer, happy Hour... take your pick.

Carolyn Jean said...

LB an KB: I don't mean just the fact of chaining him up, I mean, you know, the whole thing she does AFTER that. Okay, do I have to excerpt?

lisabea said...

Excerpt!

I've found that excerpts are universally adored and appreciated.

Katie(babs) said...

If I can remember, she has her dirty way with him.

Carolyn Jean said...

Okay, okay, it's where he's about to come, and then she squeezes his cock really hard and (sounds to me) like painfully to stop it in its tracks, and then she repeats. There! You made me say it! No clients better be reading this.

Katie(babs) said...

ohhh CJ *shock gasp* :D

Carolyn Jean said...

Oh, shut UP!

Katie(babs) said...

Well, she could have used her jaw to to squeeze his COCK till he explodes.

lisabea said...

This is the cock ring phenomena. Which I personally know NOTHING about but have read about plenty. Lots of cock rings and devices of that nature in M/M and M/F BDSM. MY god. Never in a million years did I think I'd type that.

WHERE is the PIG when we need these questions answered??? GODDAMN it. He'd tell us. Or throw stones at us...not clear which.

lisabea said...

Heh. I think that's my new quote of the week ceejay. And now you've broken TP's record.


ahahahahhhahahaha

Carolyn Jean said...

KB, that is not at all a helpful answer! I think you are teasing me!

LB, that is a slightly more helpful answer. But it is my understanding that the cock ring, now that I have totally gone x-rated with this comment batch, stays on, whereas this is a quick, intense and temporary err...application of pressure.

Carolyn Jean said...

LB: what quote? I'm frightened. But in a much jollier mood than previously.

Sarai said...

Um well damn it I have to read it. Is it book 2 or 3?

Sarai said...

OMG OMG OMG my eyes what the hell I decide to answer before reading the comments and then I had to check my age.
My experience with "the rings" is limited to MFC and boy was that an eye opener and then I turned around and read Lora Leighs that involved one and WOW I am no longer innocent.
Not sure where I was going with that comment just thought I would throw it out there.

Anonymous said...

er. totally different kind of ring,sarai. that nate has a prince albert.... we're talking about a toy thing. omg this is hilariously revealing! I heart cj

-lb

meljean brook said...

I think she squeezes just below the head of the cock, though, and to stop it, it should be at the base, just above the testicles.

meljean brook said...

Or so I've heard. *angel face*

meljean brook said...

Yep, okay ladies -- it's on page 268 - 269

Yeah, squeezing the head? Maybe it's because he's a vampire. But at that point, the stuff is already shooting up the shaft, so how would squeezing the head stop it?

Unless she squeezed so hard (and from the description, she might have) it just broke his pee pee.

Carolyn Jean said...

Sarai - sorry about your eyes!

MJ: Well thank you! An answer and some excellent instructions!

Yes, now that you explain a bit, I should imagine there would be a large difference between doing this thing right, and doing it wrong. A very large experiential difference for the fella in question.

Katie(babs) said...

Don't the Valkerie have superman strength, so if she was squeezing really tight with her inner muscles, wouldn't his wee wee, well let's just say she would literally have him by his dick?

Carolyn Jean said...

Yeah, no wonder he wanted to break out of those chains so bad. But I don't think she broke it, if you read onto the next scene.

meljean brook said...

"Don't the Valkerie have superman strength, so if she was squeezing really tight with her inner muscles, wouldn't his wee wee, well let's just say she would literally have him by his dick?"

After writing Wonder Woman fanfic and Guardian fanfic, I have thought about this WAY too much.

If the muscles bulged, I think he'd have a problem (and a crushed appendage.) But since the tissue is elastic and they just contract, he might 'feel' it more ... but I don't think he'd be locked in there.

Actually, maybe I'll ask my ob-gyn next time. I totally will -- that is something necessary to know.

meljean brook said...

"But I don't think she broke it, if you read onto the next scene."

Hee, true. Unless maybe he heals super-fast?

These paranormals, I tell ya. Just crazy crap all over the place.

Anonymous said...

i'm having my hair colored and snorting and gasping..

-lb

Katie(babs) said...

Well, in Lover Enshrined, Rehv has this thing called a barb in his wee where it latches onto the women as he releases his essense and won't let go till he is done. See CJ, I am trying to be oh so professional and polite sounding.

Katie(babs) said...

And in Emma Holly's Prince of Ice the hero had a second lil wee wee that came out to join his first big wee-wee.

Carolyn Jean said...

KB: Wait a minute, what is this about Rhev? It sounds like something from the insect world!

MJ: Way to get the most out of the ob-gyn visit. I love that. Literary research.

Katie(babs) said...

Well, when you find who Rehv is using his barb on you may think insect.

meljean brook said...

Lora Leigh's cat breeds have barbs, too.

Katie(babs) said...

The new trend in romance with heroes is now Tall, Dark, Handsome and has a nice hard barb.

Katie Reus said...

Wow, I check back and bam! Thanks for clearing up what you were talking about. I'm still totally getting the book now ;)

lisabea said...

MJ I remember how appalled one of those cats was when his barb flipped out, or fell out, or pushed out..or maybe it extended telescopically? IDK.

Also: how fun was this to read in the salon?

And thank you Katie for that Rhev insect image. I have a vision of a mosquito now. Thank you.

Christine said...

MJB is right... the squeezing is supposed to be at the base of the cock just above the testicles and can delay his orgasm, hence ejaculation. You can use your hands or a toy.

Don't tell me I'm the only one here who owns a C-ring??!!

Christine said...

LB its more like a lizard image. Bleck.

Carolyn Jean said...

Christine: I think you are the only one! Maybe the Thrillionth page will have to do a special report on the C-ring, now that we've totally gone x-rated with this post.

Christine said...

Do you want a blow by blow description of how it works? LOLOL couldn't resist that one.

lisabea said...

I believe there's plenty of video available on line.

I'm telling ya, research is an amazing time suck.

JenB said...

Jen's Personal Experience TMI Post:

Yes, it works, both with the hand and with a c-ring. Dude wears a c-ring and can't actually shoot his load 'til the ring is released (which is why the ones without snaps or velcro are just cruel ways to force a man to maintain his erection).

Hand at the base of the penis requires some practice and a really hard grip, but it works too. Some guys can have a dry orgasm this way. Other guys can't come to orgasm at all until released. It's a form of pleasure/pain that's great for more hardcore dudes, painful for the less adventurous boys.

Nope, nothing embarrasses me. I've done lots of unthinkable acts you only read about in romance novels (even the M/M ones *gasp*). ;) I've shopped at adult toy stores so long other customers actually ask me for advice in the aisles. LOLOL

Sarai said...

OMG well color my face red I guess now i have to read the damn books. Hum...

Sarai said...

so the innocent little non virgin here is wondering what the hell she is missing out on in life? Christine you and JenB and I need to discuss this a little more not to mention Meljean this could get very interesting
And LB no videoes at work so that's out and I think they would ban me from the library if I tried. I wonder what Starbucks policy is on that?

Katie(babs) said...

I can help with the "blow by blow" post. Remember, we have to help out all those kittens and rabbits.

Carolyn Jean said...

What is that thundering sound?
Oh, it's the kittens and rabbits of the world running away in terror.

Okay, please continue.

JenB said...

What innocent virgins are missing out on IRL: www.adameve.com

Heh.

Hubby and I have two entire nightstand drawers full of sex paraphernalia. (You really wanted to know that, didn't you?)

JenB said...

In case anyone is wondering, the adameve site is NOT WORK SAFE.

And neither is this little educational site that shows you what kinky gay men play with:

www.boyzshop.com (NOT WORK SAFE...NOT SAFE FOR HOMES WITH KIDS...NOT SAFE FOR SENSITIVE STOMACHS)

Katie(babs) said...

"Kate grabs her kittens and rabbits and runs away*

Carolyn Jean said...

JenB, thanks! This will be, I imagine, the total disco extended remix of the answer to my question of the day. Every aspect. I must check this when I have a chance. No, not TMI at all.

Sarai, you will have to start wearing a disguise to Starbucks at this rate.

Katie(babs) said...

I can imagine Sarai huddled in a trenchcoat with shifty eyes as she trolls certain sites and sips her grande latte and takes a bite of a scone.

JenB said...

CJ--You mean that seriously, and not in a "OMG, this chick is crazy" way? LOL In that case, glad to have helped. :)

meljean brook said...

Shifty eyes and a trench?

Yeah, that pretty much describes my experience when I'm writing at Starbucks.

lisabea said...

I imagine Sarai glued to her screen oblivious to the flock of male customers and coffee lads as they stroll surreptitiously past her table. Again and again.

Katie(babs) said...

Some of those men may drop a few napkins with their phone numbers in her lap.

lisabea said...

We should have a blogger party at Starbucks.

Although I HATE their coffee.

D&D all the way. I'm having some right now.

Tracy said...

Oh dear Lord do you see what I miss when I don't troll the blogs earlier in the day??? My poor little innocent friends are well, not so innocent!

Jenb - I'll have to check out the sites - but not at work! lol

TMI part - my hubby tried this little trick once but I don't think he was sqeezing hard enough and it didn't work. Bummer! lol

KB - Barbs - ow.

Tracy said...

Oh and I like the fun names for Cole's books! Although I kept getting the last 2 releases confused in my head since they both started with the word dark.

JenB said...

Barbs sound painful to me, too. Hell, I don't even like studded condoms.

Katie(babs) said...

For some reason I compare Rehv's barb to the alien that comes out of John Hurt's chest in the movie Alien.
Yup, I just went there.

Brie said...

I asked my hubby if that was possible after reading that scene. He said: no way! But what does he know?

I will say, if it is possible, I would imagine that it would hurt like HELL.

JenB said...

It's possible...and it does hurt some guys, but other guys like it.

Just like some guys like having their nipples bitten and their balls squeezed, and others cry like little babies over it.

I like the tough ones. *evil grin*

But the squeeze thing...it's really about control, so the guy can get off more than once...or to keep him from shooting before his partner gets off...OR because they have a dominating partner who doesn't want them to get off at all (S&M). It's not exactly meant to be a "fun" thing.

kim said...

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What a great discussion! I have to share my experience with this. I work a drug dog and I work in several school districts. About 2 years ago my K9 alerted on a vehicle and so in the process of searching the car I found a c-ring. I didn't know what it was so I asked the kid and the principal (both male) what it was. They both got very uncomfortable and red faced and hands went in their pockets and feet shuffled. I was so confused. Finally the principal came over and whispered in my ear. I dropped that thing so fast...luckily I wear latex gloves but still...I gave the kid a dirty look and said Jeeze kid, clean out your car!

Ah, drug interdiction...what fun. You wouldn't believe the things I have touched and smelled. Anyway, now I take annual trips to head shops just to keep in the know. Research...heh.

Wendy said...

Hey now I like the titles, and the covers too!

I've read about this stuff before but honestly I'm a bit wary about trying it on a real guy without possibly getting punched, LOL. I can't stop laughing imagining it happen.. oh god, I'm sooo red right now.

Christine said...

I have a feeling the C-ring I have is the vanilla version of this kind of 'toy.' Srsly.

Christine said...

LOL Kim! That's a funny story!

lisabea said...

I soooo oooo oooo want to use that story in this thing I'm writing.


oh that's frickin awesome Kim.

Carolyn Jean said...

Oh, Tracy, that is a very amusing story!

Christine: Are you backtracking?

Wendy: the punching fear crossed my mind, too

Jen, that sort of makes sense with the story in question. It would be good if we could get a guy on here who's had it done to him to report.

Brie: It sounds like your hubby may be wrong. Or maybe he's one of the guys who would totally hate it.

KB: I'm still wondering, what with that barb, why you have Rhev in your hut.

Tracy: Is this a think a guy can do on himself? Maybe not! Maybe YOU have to do it on him! (and then report back)

Carolyn Jean said...

LB: I bet Kim has lots of good stories.

Brie said...

Kim, that story was hilarious. :)

And I shall have fun this afternoon, telling my hubby that he was wrong on this one.

kim said...

Heh...my job...I learn something new every damn day.

LB- It's yours if you want it.

The funniest thing at the time was the body language that was being thrown off by the the kid and the principal as soon as I picked it up...that is why I asked what it was. Not the usual BL I am used to seeing, and was the first thing that tipped me off that something was wrong.

I heart my job!

lisabea said...

I heart your job, too!

Tracy said...

I thought it was amusing at the time - my hubby, not so much. lol

I think they can do it to themselves if they know where - but like Jen said - you have to do it pretty hard.

Kim - OMG that's hilarious!

sula said...

what a great blog post. and awesome discussion. why do i miss all the good stuff while i'm at work. *pout*

so, CJ, I take it you are enjoying the books? thanks to lb for sharing the lurve. I'm gonna send her the arthur books soon...the circle will be complete. :)

Aymless said...

OMG OMG OMG...

I guess this is my new fact for the day. *blushes* Not sure I'll be able to ever share it without blushing outrageously. Thanks of all the enlightenment!

Samantha Kane said...

You all crack me up. With your new knowledge you will draw men like bees to honey, at Starbucks and elsewhere.

Oh, and I knew that Rhev had hidden . . . depths.

Bridget Locke said...

Wow, see this is what happens when I'm not able to blog-hop until 11 something at night. I miss the "interesting" discussions. *sigh*

Yeah, the fisting the cock thing just freaks me out and sounds hideously painful. I'm of the opinion that it's up to the guy though.


I still say Cadeon's sexin' was much sexier, thank you. :)

Ana said...

OH. MY . LORD.

Only in our fantastico world we get to read 76 comments about coming interruptus. LOL.

I am dying here.

CJ, so happy you are reading this series! You must keep us updated on which one is your favourite! *grin* I still say Lykae trumps Vampire.

Carolyn Jean said...

Tracy: well good for your husband for trying!

Sula: Yes, I am SO enjoying the books. Thanks!

Aymless: Yeah, this is my most info-packed comments section ever.

Sam: We will draw men…or frighten them.

Bridget: Yes, it probably should be up to the guy, but it also seems like it should be a surprise!

Ana: Lykae v. Vampire…I did like that Lykae.

Christine said...

Christine: Are you backtracking?

Why yes, CJ, I think I might be. I believe JenB is our resident expert. ;)

JenB said...

LOL...expert...ha. Just a sick puppy. That's all.

Sarai said...

LOL starbucks and I had an interesting meeting last night I will have to post I decided not to go with the trench but instead opted for a baseball cap baggy sweat shirt (it's like 90 here) and sunglassess and it wasn't men who kept coming around. So I headed to the library where all the kidos were pumped up with sugar and left b/c that's just not a safe place to look at fun stuff. *sigh* maybe the trench coat would've been better?

LesleyW said...

LOL - I come to this discussion 81 posts in.

And I'm so glad I'm reading The Immortals After Dark series at the moment. :)

naida said...

wow, interesting question, I havent read this book but now I must! lol
http://thebookworm07.blogspot.com/

jessewave said...

So, my post on this topic is probably No.100. I just followed this link out of curiosity from lisabea's and look what I fell into. I can't believe I'm going to buy this book because of a painful technique that I had never heard of (actually the entire series is in my amazon cart.) Does this really work? Where are the guys when you need an answer to such a burning question?

Bev(QB) said...

I'm late like Jesse, but what the hell, I may as well weigh in on this one too.

C-Rings, do not, in my experience, prevent the Big O. They can slow it down, and they do keep extra blood in the tissues which tends to expand the spongy tissue to its fullest and firmest (translation: it gets bigger and harder). Just don't put it on too early in the foreplay. Damn thing turns PURPLE from the cut-off of blood flow!! Favorite so far: the Pearl C-Ring from Adam and Eve.

Having said that however, I have heard that the ones that strap the testicles also, DO prevent ejaculation, but I've also heard that they work more thru the power of suggestion: tell him he CAN'T when he's wearing the complete rig, and he will be convinced that he really can't. Dunno, never tried one.

As for circling the base or head to STOP one? Unless the grip is strong enough to cause sharp pain (and assuming he doesn't LIKE the sharp pain) I don't see how that would work well (the "tube" is in the center and wouldn't be effected), nor do I see how gently pulling down the sack (as I've read in several books) would work well either.

However, I DO know that a firm grip over the head and a tight squeeze (head in palm, fingers below head) CAN stop one in mid-spurt!!

Or maybe every man is different and what works for one, has liitle or no effect on another!

jessewave said...

OMG Bev

You are a ?fountain? LOL of knowledge. I never knew all that stuff and I have been doing the nasty more years than I care to remember. WOW it really pays to read because all of your burning questions get answered. Now to go practice :)